Resisting the new car itch

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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby IanLorenc » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:37 pm

East Anglia would be a bit of an issue. Like the South-West, mid-Wales, or Highlands, there's a bit of a charger drought. Not like, say, anywhere around a major arterial route.

Still getting on fine with it.
Weather has picked up a little, and now consistently getting over 4m/p/kWh or around the theoretical 100 mile mark.
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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby frv » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:57 am

Sounds great Ian :D
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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby IanLorenc » Sat May 07, 2016 12:25 pm

I was working out some figures yesterday.
A lot of my charging has been free at the nearby LFE services, and I'm grateful for that. It's enabled some real savings. I mean, I would have saved anyway, but this just makes the savings greater.

I logged into the web dashboard of my home charging unit, for stats.
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The CO2 saved box is against a car of 130g CO2/KM...I don't know how they're working that out though.
The money saved box is useless, because it doesn't know the mileage I've done and that I've charged elsewhere as well.

I've used 244kWh* of home electricity, at 12.82p per kWh, which is a total of £31.28** since I got the car in early January and I've now covered 3210 miles.
For an ICE car to cover 3210 miles for £31.28, it would have to do 484.81mpg (30.1 litres @ 103.9, my local Sainsbury's current price for both petrol and diesel). Or you'd have to be a serial bilker.
A petrol car averaging 40mpg would use 364.8 litres of fuel at a cost of £379.10 to cover 3210 miles.
A diesel car averaging 60mpg would use 243.2 litres of fuel at a cost of £252.80 to cover 3210 miles.

(*this figure also includes a few times when I didn't actually charge the car, I just used the house mains to pre-heat it on cold mornings...because I was feeling lazy and couldn't be bothered to scrape the ice off)
(**I estimate I've done about a third of my charges at home, so if I'd charged entirely at home, this figure would be just under £100)

Oh, and the duration refers to how long the car was plugged in, not how long it was actually using power. For a rough guide of how long a home charge can take:
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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby frv » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:01 am

Hi Ian, how's it going with the plug in?
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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby Smithsk71 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:48 am

Hi Ian,

How's the Zoe going? I see the new model coming out increases the range to ~200 real world. Ex-demonstrators and very low mileage one owner Zoe's are incredibly good value just now and I wonder if there will be quite a few more available (even cheaper) as some owners trade up to the newer model. I'm tempted and am doing the math after our first nasty repair bill on the Touran!
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Re: Resisting the new car itch

Postby tighterse » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:24 pm

As should be obvious I'm a serious doubter that electric drive has a future, especially since I live in an environment surrounded and polluted by wind turbines (well over 100 within a five mile radius). Tell me how to transport 25 tons from Inverness to Ullapool or Gairloch using electricity. Tell me how to go from Dunoon to Dumfries using electricity.

Also conveniently ignored is the capital cost of going electric. I tried a Soul electric recently but the extra cost could never, never be justified. The almost £7,000 extra to go electric would buy an awful lot of petrol or diesel.

I was told (and I can't confirm the accuracy) that the new Borders rail line is diesel because electrification would have doubled the cost.

Then finally why should I suffer just to let the city dwellers have a cleaner environment that mine. At the end of the day it always comes down to personal circumstances - brexit was just an example.
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