I’ve been covering the Skoda Octavia MK3 VRS in some detail of late, with our Skoda MK3 VRS buyers guide proving to be very popular. Apart from water pump issues on early cars, the Mk3 VRS seems to have stood the test of time quite well. I’ve had high hopes for the VRS but I’ve been keeping my nose to the ground, searching for another common issue. We just might have found it.
The issue at hand is one that I personally have been experiencing with increasing frequency especially now that my 2015 VRS TDI DSG is starting to show its age (nearly 5 years old with 63k on the clock).
This being the error in the maxi dot that displays – Error: workshop! Leave vehicle only when selector lever is in position P.
This error only shows up momentarily but it’s quite unsettling and accompanied by a rather disconcerting error tone from the dash.
It’s not just the VRS either. Our googling has shown that the issue also affects the Mk7 Golf and countless other models fitted with the latest incarnation of the VW DSG gearbox.
What is the error?
I’ve have managed to stumble across the error in its raw form from an owner with access to VCDS
617752 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch B1162 29 [024] - Signal Implausible Intermittent - Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00000001 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 3 Reset counter: 160 Mileage: 29359 km Date: 2017.10.25 Time: 11:28:01 Operating time: 59302 min Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 14.3 V Vehicle speed: 19 km/h Voltage at switch: 4.98 V Terminal 15 status: active System status: 30
The general consensus is that the entire gear lever assembly will need replacing. It might not be so much of an issue for those under warranty however, it’s suggested that the parts alone are £500 with around 4 hours labour. That could be in excess of £1000 to fix could what could be a small microswitch failure in the unit.
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Can I fix it myself?
Judging that the labour for the selector replacement is around 4 hours of wrenching, we very much doubt that this would be a Saturday afternoon with the spanners. I’m certainly not keen to give this one a go.
What happens if I just ignore it?
Whilst the error tone is annoying the error only displays on the maxi dot for a few seconds at most. It is becoming more of a regular occurrence in my VRS, I’m just hoping that eventually it doesn’t fail completely causing either limp home mode or worse.
Will it be fixed under warranty?
Early information suggests that this is the case. We’ve seen a number of posts on the Skoda VRS owners club facebook group link from owners confirming that dealers are replacing the offending parts under warranty. It’s also been stated that some owners with vehicles out of warranty have had to pay labour with the selector being offered “good will” by the manufacturer.
What’s next?
It’s early days for our investigation and our advice on how best to approach this issue. We’ll be reaching out to VW and Skoda but we’re also looking for feedback from the VAG community. Please let us know in the comments below if you’ve had the issue and how your main dealership has gone about fixing it.
Update 22/10/2019
What have Wings Skoda Peterborough Offered?
After a rather long conversation with the service guys over at Wings Skoda Peterborough, I have finally got a figure for the repair. Thankfully Skoda have offered to cover the price of the part as “goodwill”, with me having to cover the 3 hours labour, totalling at over £330 of my hard-earned pounds. WTF!
Now I’m in two minds about this. Whilst it’s great that Skoda is willing to cover the cost of the parts, I’m still facing a bill for something that I believe should be either recalled or fixed entirely as “goodwill”. Is the offer of goodwill admission that this is a known issue? Is this another dieselgate in the making? Frankly, I’m a little pi**ed about the whole situation.
More issues
We’ve been made aware of more instances of the issues on the Mk3 VRS facebook group (image below). As you’ll see from the conversation below, others have been quoted about the £1k mark for the repair with one own told to “not bother out of warranty”.
Will I be getting it repaired?
At present, I won’t be forking out for the DSG selector repair. It’s just too early on and there is a very slim chance that another lucky owner has the entire cost covered by Skoda out of warranty, effectively opening the flood gates for others suffering from the issue.
We’ll continue to keep you all posted
Let’s hear from you
Like many of our articles, I’m all about crowdsourcing information for the common good. Please do let us know if there is something we have missed or incorrectly stated. I hope that with enough feedback from owners we may be able to pressure the VW group into both acknowledging and recalling the affected vehicles. It’s a long shot but worth a shot in my humble opinion.
** Thanks to Darren from the Mk3 Octavia VRS Facebook group for the main image
Hi Karl
I’ve not gone to main dealer I have emailed skoda UK themselves, looking at the service you can get with skoda online it states you should have a diagnostic check, I am wondering if mine was ignored as it was happening before my last service. It does seem it’s an issue and in my opinion it should be a recall.
Thanks Darren, I completely agree. Now the cars are starting to get some years behind them it might be more common than I expected.
Could you keep us in the loop? I have this sinking feeling that this might just be a massive issue for owners with the DSG box. My email address is karl (at) hypermiler.co.uk – Cheers
My 2017 octy 1.4 has had the same, luckily for me its just in its last month of warranty. The dealer hasn’t quibbled. That suggests to me the VAG group are fully aware and accepting such warranty claims. For those out of warranty with fairly average to low mileage might have a case with VAG considering the evidence. My dealer has charged them £378 for the repair.
My 2017 Octavia estate had the same problem but Skoda fixed it free of charge 36000 miles on the clock. There was no quibble about the fix they just booked it in and did it.
Hi mine is an automatic estate 2017 and this has been happening with mine for past couple of months. My local Skoda dealership Bristol Street Motors at Derby booked it in for a service and to fix the error message up. It only has 38000 on clock, they did the service charged me over £300 then said sorry but we can’t do the fault???? I am livid. Who did you contact and was yours still under warranty? Thanks Moira.
Hi
I have the same problem.
My car is at Skoda as I type this awaiting a call on the price to fix the problem.
Also have the airbag light on constantly and have been told it needs to have the airbag ecu changed.
Hi my name is aman from india m havin a skoda octavia 2014 havin a issue error workshop leave vehicle in position P plz contact
There is a repair instructions with pictures from someone about the issue. I accidentally found the web link while searching for the vcds error. “617752 – Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch”. He only changed a microswitch in the selector which can cost 3-4 dollars. As it can be seen from the pictures, the microswitch plugs are burned. he replaces the switch and problem gones. I read the text on the switch as “sm5 5a 125/250vac”. the link is: https://www.drive2.com/l/508123356931818175/
Hi I have same problems with my skoda Octavia dsg automatic. Error workshop. Exit vehicle in p position. Fault code is.B116229.my vehicle age is 2016. Does it still under warranty? Please help thanks.
This is an issue covered under warranty however standard warranty is only for 3 years unless you have the extra 5-year warranty pack. You might get the part covered by goodwill if it’s been serviced with Skoda otherwise, you’ll be looking at around a £900 / £1000 bill.
Hi karl i am from india driving a skoda octavia vrs 2018 i have error code P173400 starter release from the selector lever sensor system – intermittent …. is there any solution to it or we can drive without any issues.
Hi Karl. I have just started experiencing this problem on a Skoda Suberb 2015 model with only circa 50,000 miles on the clock. My local garage has kindly suggested a mere £800 to fix it!
Have you or anyone else heard of any cases of this worsening to the point of being stuck in limp home or unable to drive. Really poor for a premium product from a manufacturer.
My 2016 Octavia VRS, with less than 40,000 miles on the clock, has done this a couple of times in the last couple of years, but the error immediately went away and didn’t come back. But now, it happens every time I use the car. What is very frustrating is my extended warranty expired in March, 2021…
What did you end up doing with regards to fixing it?
Our 2018 Fabia that we’ve had for just under 2 years and about 20,000kms suddenly started displaying this message this week. Here in Australia the car came with a 5 year warranty so I’ve got it booked in to be fixed next week.
I understand that issue address the D and S drive elector mechanism switch and replaceing it fixes the issue.
What I read about some drivers ignore it and drive the car for years without fixing it, so is this error message means something is broken or not working, otherwise is it just a bug when the warranty expires and that VW cant explain the reason of getting but earning service fee over it?
Just to add – my 2016 Superb has this fault. I bought a years warranty from Skoda as I only bought the car in Feb. They quoted £626.94 to fix (think that’s just the part?) but I have £250 excess on warranty. Happy it is getting fixed, though.
I have got same problem with mine. I think should be recalled as could be seen as safe issue as distraction when Alam goes off. And as you look down could miss someone walk out or brake.
I have this problem on my 2014 Golf and I agree that this should be a recall
I have the same problem on a 2016 Octavia 1.4tsi with under 40k on the clock.
Dealer and Skoda UK closed ranks and say “tough luck your warranty expired” claim it’s not a safety issue as the UK owners guide days to apply your hand brake each time you park… Yeah like that happens with auto drivers! Not impressed and my next career will not be a Skoda!!
The Part 5Q0-713-128-A should solve your problems. There is another fix for a different Version of the gear selector (to different manufacturer’s). Price is 50 € in Germany…search on eBay. If you have a white cover on top of the gear selection box the above mentioned switch will not fit.
Helou.. help pls.Do you know part number of another fix for a different version of thegear selector?
My Husbands Seat leon 2016 FR has come up with the message as stated above. Is this something that should be done?
I have a Arteon built in 2017. My car has a click when gear leaver is placed into park every forth try.
My dealer has adjusted cable and fitted a new gear knob assembly But it still Happens.
I have complained But they say that’s how the gear shift is Good Bye.
Car is still in warranty. I have rang Volkswagen Australia four time But no answer ?
Any ideas would be a great Help !
I have just bought a 67 reg SEAT Ibiza with the auto box…have driven around 300 miles, and am getting the same error message.The gear lever is in P as that is the only position you can pull the key out.It seems this is the micro switch, for which there is a ‘fix’. Have just arranged for it to go into the SEAT Dealer for diagnostic.
I have the very same on my Skoda fabia dsg intermittent problem flashe up for a second or so ,leaved a warning triangle on screen which disappears at next start up.
Very frustrating and now furious that it is so widespread, and VW aren’t actively sorting it out or even acknowledging it is a problem.
If it’s not going to cause an mechanical or electrical failure I can only live with it . Or sell it!,,
Is that what VW would like?
There are genuine VW retrofit parts available to fix this problem quite easily. I have fixed my wife’s 2016 6 speed DSG golf. There are two different parts which correspond to the selector housing, my Golf was white and I think the 7 speed is black, priced at £100 for the white version, £70 for the black version and available from the dealer although they didn’t seem to know about this.
I have a link to a place to buy the part and there is also a video link to show how it’s fitted. It took me 30 minutes on my first try, and could easily do it in twenty again.
https://www.deutsche-parts.co.uk/vw-audi-skoda-seat-mqb-cars-dsg-gear-selector-repair-kit-new-genuine-vw-part.html
i have a dsg in a skoda octavia 1.8 tsi
after 5 mins driving the gear selected displayed starts to flash
horror story is in a uk skoda forum its the megatronic failing … £900 fix and a skoda dealer told one guy the whole unit needed changing … £3000 !!
look out for this … apparently a lost recall back 2011/2012
this supposed brilliant auto box is looking a nightmare me thinks
tom
I’ve learnt that it is the micro switch quite inexpensive and a quick fix,there are two different types so no need to replace
The hole assembly.loads of videos on you tube hope this helps